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An interesting look and 'off the wall' marketing doesn't help to turn the Herbie into a good Pushchair. In fact the funkiness of the Ziko website is becoming rather off-putting.

Herbie

One to consider

For a lie-flat package that can be expanded into a Travel System

Expert review

Well, it's certainly becoming difficult to tell what's what these days as everything 'new' seems to be an amalgamation of other products on the market. The Herbie is no exception to this rule as it looks like a combination of the Quinny Buzz, iCandy Apple and Bugaboo Cameleon. Being the new kid on the block, this really needs to either bring something new to the party or come in at a good price. There's nothing new here and at getting on for £500 the Herbie isn't going to win on price.

Strip away the cute marketing and painfully awful website and what do we have left? Nothing special is the answer.

Strangely, it's not easy to find the specifications for the Herbie on the website, possibly this is because the 'lightweight' Chassis and Seat unit together weigh 11.5kgs (the Cameleon is 9kgs) with the Carrycot it's 12.6kgs.

So what does the Herbie package comprise? The Herbie starts out as a traditional pram with a Carrycot on a Chassis allowing the baby to lay flat and face whoever is pushing. After the first few  months you will swap the Carrycot for the pushchair Seat. The seat can be fitted to face either direction and reclines to three positions whilst the hood from the Carrycot transfers to the pushchair.

The Herbie has lockable swivel wheels at the front and larger air-filled tyres at the rear with suspension on all wheel units. Even with this configuration, the Herbie doesn't push well and is certainly not the most manoeuvrable of pushchairs. The handle is height adjustable making it suitable for most people to push but the shape of the handle adds to the not too pleasing overall pushing experience.

The shopping basket is a good size and the package also includes a Footmuff, changing bag, parasol, Raincover and Tyre Pump. The inclusion of all the accessories makes the package more attractive but doesn't improve the quality of the product.

You can add the Pro Sleep Car Seat to the Herbie to turn it into a complete travel system.





THE LOW-DOWN

How practical? Practical
Defining Features – Interesting look and a complete package
Car boot size: Family
Upsides – Add the Pro Sleep Car Seat to make a Travel System
Downsides – Not that great to push
Key considerations
Ease of use – Easy
Budget – £480
Accessories to consider – Comes with everything that you will need

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> Title: Herbie
> Brand: Mamas & Papas
> RRP: £480
> Age group: From Birth
> Weight: 12.6 kg
> Car seat compatible: Yes
> Carrycot compatible: Yes
> Width closed: 64 cm

> Height closed: 40 cm
> Length closed: 79 cm
> Width open: 64 cm
> Height open: 99 cm
> Length open: 79 cm
> Wheel size: 27/18cm
> Terrain: City Parks Urban
> Extending handles: Yes

> Extending range: 99-106 cm
> Boot size: Family
> Facing parent: Parent and forward facing
> Raincover included: Yes
> Separate chassis: Yes
> Genuine lie-flat: Yes
> Travel: No

User Reviews RSS

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02.11.2008 | Name: brenda
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 1|10

the concept of the herbi is great but the designers did not use good quailty materials eg.the rain cover needed to be re-enforced around the area where you are constantly zipping, the handle bar in the high position needed another stonger locking device, the car seat needed to be a bit wider because not all babies are all the same size and also it was to heavey, the wheels needed to be well greased, the umberella was very poor quailty, the material exspecialy the black, faded to an off black, the bag is to small needs to be a bit bigger, the foot muff which zipps on to the push chair needs a stronger zip, the basket needs to be made out of a stronger material. overall i've had nothing but problems with this pram and would not recommend it to enyone!

15.10.2008 | Name: KathH
Rating:
 
 1|10

Do not buy this pushchair!! This is the list of problems we have had with it so far., My daughter is 5 months old: chassis locked up so couldn't collapse it adjustable height handle collapses when pushing the pram along front wheels lock up fabric faded (blue has gone a pinky colour especially around the hood) zip on footmuff broken basket torn parasol broken raincover come apart at seam Mamas and Papas customer service is appauling. They won't replace it or give me my money back even after all these faults. They are re-dressing the pram with all new fabrics because of the fading and other faults, but don't do the colour I chose any more. I have to have one of the new colours, none of which I like.

13.10.2008 | Name: jumpybob
Rating:
 
 5|10

My little one has been in the Herbie for 7 months now. I love the look of the pram and the pushchair but I've had many problems with it. The shopping basket is too small when the carrycot is in use. Plus the shopping basket has torn. I bought the herbie in 'Just Black', now the material has all faded and looks more like 'Just Grey'. The pro sleep car seat weighs a ton - I had a c-section and for the first few weeks I just thought i was a bit weak but 7 months on I can hardly manage to lift the car seat to the frame let alone lift the car seat into the house.

12.09.2008 | Name: weemaddy1976
Rating:
 
 3|10

i loved the look of this pram, i wish i hadn't botehred and would urge others to look about before shelling out for this piece of equipment. our carrycot sat at such an angle bubs slid down when she was in it. we assembled the pram when we got it and it sat in a cupboard for nigh on 6 weeks before it was used. we were going to go on first outing on leaving the hosp when my other half discovered the chassis was snapped :-0 and the stitching had came away from the carrycot tabs that secured it to the chassis. we had no choice but to use it that day and it was rainy and windy, the loose fitting apron cover was waving around in the wind, ended up water marked from the few drops of water that touched it before i got the raincover on and said cover only really came halfway up the pram leaving bubs exposed to the elements. the whole point of getting this monstrosity was so that bubs would be cosy in the winter. not exposed and sliding down to the foot of the pram and balancing on and wobbly chassis. the bag was rubbish, the raincover poor quality. i would not recommend this travel system to anyone. we exchanged it at the pram centre the next day for the silver cross sleepover and i wish i had just purchased this far supperior pram in the first place.

27.08.2008 | Name: Alibaba1
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 1|10

I used to love this pushchair - Not anymore!!! My daughter has bitten some of the foam off the bumper bar of the ziko herbie and I wondered if anyone else has had the same problem. Please let me know. Thanks

27.07.2008 | Name: thesunflowergal
Rating:
 
 1|10

I have used my Herbie for 5 months now, and I am on my 5th fault. Wheels lock on their own, so do not swivel. Shopping basket ripped, due to poor stitching. Bumper bar does not hold fast, some saftey feature. Nappy Bag falling apart, due to poor quality material. Now their is a problem with another of the tyres. I am soooo fed up with this pram, I have left it in the shop and told them to call me when its sorted.

01.07.2008 | Name: pramalot
Rating:
 
 5|10

why have we got to think twice about adding a car seat??can someone tell me??i think its stupid to put in a comment like that and not tell people why???

20.02.2008 | Name: slwatkins
Rating:
 
 8|10

As a user, I disagree that this is not a great pushchair. I found it hard to find a pram that ticked all the boxes for us, until we tested the Herbie - sturdy and solid, good suspension with pneumatic tyres, lay-flat carrycot, good pushchair seat for later, folds easily, and where the baby is not so low to the ground as a Bugaboo. I would recommend this pushchair to anyone...

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